Comments on: 10 Things we learned from Matchday 33 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html News from The German Bundesliga Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:57:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jan http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6289 Jan Thu, 15 May 2008 11:40:55 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6289 Luke: "I’ll miss Pagelsdorf too, you can imagine him driving the bus to and from the matches, can’t you?" Absolutely. :-) "And what happened to Zidan? Scoring bunches of goals for low-table clubs doesn’t necessarily translate into the same success at a big club (See: Podolski, and to some degree, Gekas) but the guy seemed poised for stardom." I could see Zidan being sold for just about what Hamburg paid for him, then rising to stardom and quadrupling his price. Or maybe he'll get a second chance with Martin Jol. Gekas is still Leverkusen's leading goalscorer which isn't that bad. What was wrong with Marcelinho's goal? Eric: "They have so many young talents and got some amazing goals." Maybe it's better for those young talents to play in the second division without the pressure of relegation battles? But Rostock really is doing something right there. Felix Kroos (Toni Kroos' brother) will probably already play for Rostock next season. A highly rated striker. So it'll be interesting to see how Rostock develops in the coming years. Anna: " “hey, you’ve got that coach from us.”" I guess when Rostock fans travel to Munich to play 1860 again next season, this guy will shout "hey, you've got that kid from us.", when someone walks by with a Toni Kroos jersey. :-) Luke:
“I’ll miss Pagelsdorf too, you can imagine him driving the bus to and from the matches, can’t you?”

Absolutely. :-)

“And what happened to Zidan? Scoring bunches of goals for low-table clubs doesn’t necessarily translate into the same success at a big club (See: Podolski, and to some degree, Gekas) but the guy seemed poised for stardom.”

I could see Zidan being sold for just about what Hamburg paid for him, then rising to stardom and quadrupling his price. Or maybe he’ll get a second chance with Martin Jol. Gekas is still Leverkusen’s leading goalscorer which isn’t that bad.

What was wrong with Marcelinho’s goal?

Eric:
“They have so many young talents and got some amazing goals.”
Maybe it’s better for those young talents to play in the second division without the pressure of relegation battles? But Rostock really is doing something right there. Felix Kroos (Toni Kroos’ brother) will probably already play for Rostock next season. A highly rated striker. So it’ll be interesting to see how Rostock develops in the coming years.

Anna:
” “hey, you’ve got that coach from us.””
I guess when Rostock fans travel to Munich to play 1860 again next season, this guy will shout “hey, you’ve got that kid from us.”, when someone walks by with a Toni Kroos jersey. :-)

]]> By: Anna http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6287 Anna Thu, 15 May 2008 07:36:17 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6287 Oh, now I remember why I liked Rostock quite a bit: Last season on the 33rd matchday, when Dortmund had just knocked Schalke off the top of the table and Stuttgart were on number one, and when Rostock had played against 1860 München, I was walking through Munich central station in a VfB jersey and a few Rostock fans yelled over to me "hey, you've got that coach from us." Ah, the memories... Oh, now I remember why I liked Rostock quite a bit: Last season on the 33rd matchday, when Dortmund had just knocked Schalke off the top of the table and Stuttgart were on number one, and when Rostock had played against 1860 München, I was walking through Munich central station in a VfB jersey and a few Rostock fans yelled over to me “hey, you’ve got that coach from us.”
Ah, the memories…

]]> By: diana http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6284 diana Thu, 15 May 2008 04:25:46 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6284 I had heard of the 'dying swan' reference before and so, no problems for me. And Jan, though I didn't watch Heroes (but I know the media here kind of make a big fuss when some of the cast members came here last year on a promotional tour), I know about the references in No.9. ;) The original line was once being used in a magazine article I read about the series. Abby, I also like Rostock's logo too. :) That will be something I will miss, other than coach Pagelsdorf. 'So much for what could have been the positive surprise team of the season. This award will probably go to Energie Cottbus again.' Yeah. Karlsruhe really surprised me in the first half of the season. But after the winter break, a different story altogether. I had heard of the ‘dying swan’ reference before and so, no problems for me. And Jan, though I didn’t watch Heroes (but I know the media here kind of make a big fuss when some of the cast members came here last year on a promotional tour), I know about the references in No.9. ;) The original line was once being used in a magazine article I read about the series.

Abby, I also like Rostock’s logo too. :) That will be something I will miss, other than coach Pagelsdorf.

‘So much for what could have been the positive surprise team of the season. This award will probably go to Energie Cottbus again.’
Yeah. Karlsruhe really surprised me in the first half of the season. But after the winter break, a different story altogether.

]]> By: Eric http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6282 Eric Thu, 15 May 2008 02:08:08 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6282 Of all the teams in the bottom 5-6 of the table, Rostock was the one I wanted to see stay up. They have so many young talents and got some amazing goals. Fin Bartels will transfer to a first division club next season. Hope this prediction is correct... Of all the teams in the bottom 5-6 of the table, Rostock was the one I wanted to see stay up. They have so many young talents and got some amazing goals. Fin Bartels will transfer to a first division club next season. Hope this prediction is correct…

]]> By: Luke http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6281 Luke Thu, 15 May 2008 01:37:30 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6281 1. I always root a bit for the ex-GDR sides to stay up. Well, not really Cottbus, actually. But I think justice is served by these clubs going down, whereas last year Gladbach felt terribly unlucky, and Mainz had plenty of fighting spirit and made progress, simply not enough. I'll miss Pagelsdorf too, you can imagine him driving the bus to and from the matches, can't you? 3. Where did the Swedish league come in those rankings? Just curious based on the two *clear* hand balls missed by the officials in the UEFA Cup final. 7. Letting Kompany go would be the big mistake. Any striker or attacking midfielder they add couldn't do any worse than they did this year. And what happened to Zidan? Scoring bunches of goals for low-table clubs doesn't necessarily translate into the same success at a big club (See: Podolski, and to some degree, Gekas) but the guy seemed poised for stardom. 8. Grafite topped Luca Toni's performance at Cottbus I would say..but how about Marcelinho's goal? 1. I always root a bit for the ex-GDR sides to stay up. Well, not really Cottbus, actually. But I think justice is served by these clubs going down, whereas last year Gladbach felt terribly unlucky, and Mainz had plenty of fighting spirit and made progress, simply not enough. I’ll miss Pagelsdorf too, you can imagine him driving the bus to and from the matches, can’t you?

3. Where did the Swedish league come in those rankings? Just curious based on the two *clear* hand balls missed by the officials in the UEFA Cup final.

7. Letting Kompany go would be the big mistake. Any striker or attacking midfielder they add couldn’t do any worse than they did this year. And what happened to Zidan? Scoring bunches of goals for low-table clubs doesn’t necessarily translate into the same success at a big club (See: Podolski, and to some degree, Gekas) but the guy seemed poised for stardom.

8. Grafite topped Luca Toni’s performance at Cottbus I would say..but how about Marcelinho’s goal?

]]> By: Abby http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6280 Abby Thu, 15 May 2008 01:02:49 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6280 Native English speakers do use the term "dying swan", mostly in relation to situations above. So don't worry, we get the reference. ;) I liked Rostock. I liked their ship logo (I am a fan of interesting badges) and there was always quite a lot of merchandise for sale in Berlin, so they stand out to me. Native English speakers do use the term “dying swan”, mostly in relation to situations above. So don’t worry, we get the reference. ;)

I liked Rostock. I liked their ship logo (I am a fan of interesting badges) and there was always quite a lot of merchandise for sale in Berlin, so they stand out to me.

]]> By: Jan http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6277 Jan Wed, 14 May 2008 22:09:23 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6277 I like Rostock's chubby coach Pagelsdorf, so I will miss them as well. Yup, I meant all types of sending-off's. Though with five straight red cards he has already equalled Nowotny's straight red card count. And while thinking about it a bit more, I also wonder whether a "dying swan" makes any sense to native English speakers. I like Rostock’s chubby coach Pagelsdorf, so I will miss them as well.

Yup, I meant all types of sending-off’s. Though with five straight red cards he has already equalled Nowotny’s straight red card count.

And while thinking about it a bit more, I also wonder whether a “dying swan” makes any sense to native English speakers.

]]> By: Anna http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6276 Anna Wed, 14 May 2008 21:45:23 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/10-things-we-learned-from-matchday-33.html#comment-6276 To be fair, I think I'm going to miss Rostock a little. Somehow they became my favourite of the three promoted clubs and it's sad to see them go again. "...to bring his Bundesliga career total up to six." I'm not quite sure, but I thought it's five red and one yellow-red card. Or did you mean sending-offs in general? "(as in a movie adaption of the ballet dance The Dying Swan I suppose)" ...which is what happens when you let stylistic devices get the best of you. Sadly when I wrote that I just couldn't remember any movie role that's as famous for dying. ;) To be fair, I think I’m going to miss Rostock a little. Somehow they became my favourite of the three promoted clubs and it’s sad to see them go again.

“…to bring his Bundesliga career total up to six.”
I’m not quite sure, but I thought it’s five red and one yellow-red card. Or did you mean sending-offs in general?

“(as in a movie adaption of the ballet dance The Dying Swan I suppose)”
…which is what happens when you let stylistic devices get the best of you. Sadly when I wrote that I just couldn’t remember any movie role that’s as famous for dying. ;)

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