Comments on: Quotas on Foreigners: Some Numbers to go with 6+5 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/facts-and-figures/quotas-on-foreigners-some-numbers-to-go-with-65.html News from The German Bundesliga Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:54:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jan http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/facts-and-figures/quotas-on-foreigners-some-numbers-to-go-with-65.html#comment-1781 Jan Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:34:59 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/facts-and-figures/quotas-on-foreigners-some-numbers-to-go-with-65.html#comment-1781 There are a couple more former German players in Spain and England like Huth, Hamann, Lehmann, Odonkor and Hinkel. To name those who are or were close to the German national team. But I think that this number still reflects the dark ages of German football between 1996 to 2006. A lot of young German players are attracting interest from big European clubs again. E.g. Podolski and Gomez to Italy, Lahm to Barca etc. But then again, they won't go there because they can't play in the Bundesliga but because they are 'too good' for the league, which is entirely different to English players seeking to hone their skills abroad. In general I'm convinced that promising young English talents will find their way into Premier League sides or good European clubs. The problem seems rather, that there aren't any/too many. Stuttgart isn't such an economically poor club, that they couldn't buy a bunch of average foreigners to fill their squad. But they had a lot of quality coming from their youth system, and those players eventually helped Stuttgart win the title last year. There are a couple more former German players in Spain and England like Huth, Hamann, Lehmann, Odonkor and Hinkel. To name those who are or were close to the German national team. But I think that this number still reflects the dark ages of German football between 1996 to 2006. A lot of young German players are attracting interest from big European clubs again. E.g. Podolski and Gomez to Italy, Lahm to Barca etc. But then again, they won’t go there because they can’t play in the Bundesliga but because they are ‘too good’ for the league, which is entirely different to English players seeking to hone their skills abroad.

In general I’m convinced that promising young English talents will find their way into Premier League sides or good European clubs. The problem seems rather, that there aren’t any/too many.

Stuttgart isn’t such an economically poor club, that they couldn’t buy a bunch of average foreigners to fill their squad. But they had a lot of quality coming from their youth system, and those players eventually helped Stuttgart win the title last year.

]]> By: Angharad http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/facts-and-figures/quotas-on-foreigners-some-numbers-to-go-with-65.html#comment-1778 Angharad Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:53:42 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/facts-and-figures/quotas-on-foreigners-some-numbers-to-go-with-65.html#comment-1778 Another interesting comparison is the number of nationals who play outside their country. A cry going up among (a minority of) the England supporters is that England youth should play outside the English leagues to gain experience. Now, I happen to agree that this is probably a good thing for England, but Germany at least shows that it is not necessary. How many Germany nationals play outside the Bundesliga? Three, last time I checked: Ballack, Metzelder, and Hildebrand. None of the young ones. The same approximate numbers are true for Italy as well (Toni and Grosso only, I think, although I'm not so up on the Azzuri squad so I might be missing someone). Essentially, it comes down to your youth system. If you don't have a decent one, every "fix" you propose is just going to be a plaster over a gushing wound. England's problems start there. Another interesting comparison is the number of nationals who play outside their country. A cry going up among (a minority of) the England supporters is that England youth should play outside the English leagues to gain experience. Now, I happen to agree that this is probably a good thing for England, but Germany at least shows that it is not necessary. How many Germany nationals play outside the Bundesliga? Three, last time I checked: Ballack, Metzelder, and Hildebrand. None of the young ones. The same approximate numbers are true for Italy as well (Toni and Grosso only, I think, although I’m not so up on the Azzuri squad so I might be missing someone).

Essentially, it comes down to your youth system. If you don’t have a decent one, every “fix” you propose is just going to be a plaster over a gushing wound. England’s problems start there.

]]> By: Cerberus http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/facts-and-figures/quotas-on-foreigners-some-numbers-to-go-with-65.html#comment-1760 Cerberus Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:47:13 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/facts-and-figures/quotas-on-foreigners-some-numbers-to-go-with-65.html#comment-1760 But, but, foreigners. Dirty filthy foreigners... Yeah, it would seem obvious to me that the solution to bad national teams is to improve youth infrastructure and turn out better young players. Another great idea would be to play those same great on-form youngsters if you're regulars aren't providing the same vim and vigor. But then, I'm crazy like that. But, but, foreigners. Dirty filthy foreigners…

Yeah, it would seem obvious to me that the solution to bad national teams is to improve youth infrastructure and turn out better young players.

Another great idea would be to play those same great on-form youngsters if you’re regulars aren’t providing the same vim and vigor. But then, I’m crazy like that.

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