Comments on: A Quick and Complicated Guide to Europe http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/dfb-pokal/a-quick-and-complicated-guide-to-europe.html News from The German Bundesliga Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:54:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Paul http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/dfb-pokal/a-quick-and-complicated-guide-to-europe.html#comment-7123 Paul Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:45:15 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/dfb-pokal/a-quick-and-complicated-guide-to-europe.html#comment-7123 In Scotland the team that will be relegated this year is actually guaranteed European football as they somehow managed to make it to the Scottish Cup Final against Rangers who have already qualified for Europe. There is nothing more complicated than European Football qualifying systems. In Scotland the team that will be relegated this year is actually guaranteed European football as they somehow managed to make it to the Scottish Cup Final against Rangers who have already qualified for Europe. There is nothing more complicated than European Football qualifying systems.

]]> By: Jan http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/dfb-pokal/a-quick-and-complicated-guide-to-europe.html#comment-7120 Jan Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:25:57 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/dfb-pokal/a-quick-and-complicated-guide-to-europe.html#comment-7120 PS: this rule with the losing finalist stems back to the times, when there was still the UEFA Cup Winners Cup. In case a team won the domestic double, it would have made little sense to send a lower ranked team from the league into the competition designed for the Cup Winners, so the next best thing, ie losing finalist, got the spot. I don't know whether it's up to the UEFA or the German FA to rethink that practice. PS: this rule with the losing finalist stems back to the times, when there was still the UEFA Cup Winners Cup. In case a team won the domestic double, it would have made little sense to send a lower ranked team from the league into the competition designed for the Cup Winners, so the next best thing, ie losing finalist, got the spot. I don’t know whether it’s up to the UEFA or the German FA to rethink that practice.

]]> By: Jan http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/dfb-pokal/a-quick-and-complicated-guide-to-europe.html#comment-7119 Jan Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:21:48 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/dfb-pokal/a-quick-and-complicated-guide-to-europe.html#comment-7119 Alex, the same rules apply for non-Bundesliga (I guess you mean 2. Bundesliga and lower?) clubs. They will qualify for Europe if they win the cup and they will qualify for Europe if they lose the final and the cup winner plays in the Champions League. Nothing changed there. Luke, not to forget Alemannia Aachen in 2004. Aachen did pretty well in the cup - better than quite a few Bundesliga sides. They made it all the way past the group stage (beating OSC Lille and AEK Athens and drawing with Zenit St. Petersburg) and were then narrowly beaten by AZ Alkmaar in the round of 32. Alex, the same rules apply for non-Bundesliga (I guess you mean 2. Bundesliga and lower?) clubs. They will qualify for Europe if they win the cup and they will qualify for Europe if they lose the final and the cup winner plays in the Champions League. Nothing changed there.

Luke, not to forget Alemannia Aachen in 2004. Aachen did pretty well in the cup – better than quite a few Bundesliga sides. They made it all the way past the group stage (beating OSC Lille and AEK Athens and drawing with Zenit St. Petersburg) and were then narrowly beaten by AZ Alkmaar in the round of 32.

]]> By: Luke http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/dfb-pokal/a-quick-and-complicated-guide-to-europe.html#comment-7118 Luke Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:59:43 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/dfb-pokal/a-quick-and-complicated-guide-to-europe.html#comment-7118 Alex, you might be thinking of FC Union Berlin, who got into the 2001-02 UEFA Cup after losing to Schalke in the Pokalfinale the prior spring. They had still been in the Regionalliga in 00-01, but were promoted to the 2.Liga for 01-02. Looks like they will be the inaugural 3.Liga champs and head back to the 2.Liga as well. Alex, you might be thinking of FC Union Berlin, who got into the 2001-02 UEFA Cup after losing to Schalke in the Pokalfinale the prior spring. They had still been in the Regionalliga in 00-01, but were promoted to the 2.Liga for 01-02. Looks like they will be the inaugural 3.Liga champs and head back to the 2.Liga as well.

]]> By: Alex http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/dfb-pokal/a-quick-and-complicated-guide-to-europe.html#comment-7117 Alex Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:25:32 +0000 http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/dfb-pokal/a-quick-and-complicated-guide-to-europe.html#comment-7117 Any idea what happens if a non-Bundesliga club wins the DFB Pokal? I think they scrapped the bit about the cup final loser going in if the winner qualified by some other means, which had lead to non-first division sides in European competition (happened in Germany once, but I can't remember who), but it seems like the same thing could occur with this setup. Any idea what happens if a non-Bundesliga club wins the DFB Pokal? I think they scrapped the bit about the cup final loser going in if the winner qualified by some other means, which had lead to non-first division sides in European competition (happened in Germany once, but I can’t remember who), but it seems like the same thing could occur with this setup.

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